[dancer-users] Using Dancer2 as a website framework

[Celogeek San]

Well, I don't love php anymore, even if i have start with it, and do i hope
good job on builder home made extranet,

We use php for our frontend, and it is a company decision, so now we got
big product, it is hard to switch.

But I love building web site with Perl, and it is hard to apply it to a
company. at least in my case.


2013/9/8 sawyer x <xsawyerx at gmail.com>

> I've seen a company with 2 web developers in Ruby doing a hell of a lot
> more than 40 developers in PHP in another team.
>
> "Finding one" isn't in and of itself a quality or something to consider.
> You're probably better off having someone who knows programming
> (Ruby/Perl/Python) move to web, rather than getting a PHP programmer.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Celogeek San <me at celogeek.com> wrote:
>
>> Of course. But at least you can find some. It is not obvious to find a
>> good web perl developer. I can see that in my company.
>> Le 7 sept. 2013 23:24, "sawyer x" <xsawyerx at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>>  On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Celogeek San <me at celogeek.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Use other language for the frontend may have some advantage. The first
>>>> I see, is that you can have more developer available in other language to
>>>> maintain the frontend.
>>>>
>>>> It's easier to find PHP Zend developer than Perl Web developer. Also
>>>> true for python.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There is a major problem with that approach. The reason it's easier to
>>> find a PHP developer is because the language is cheap. It's really easy to
>>> learn, and tons of people learn it to get a job. The PHP knowledge pool is
>>> very shallow though. That means almost PHP developers are very shitty
>>> developers that stopped learning because PHP doesn't really have a very
>>> proficient level to it.
>>>
>>> So companies that figure "hey, there are more PHP developers than
>>> Perl/Python/Ruby - I'll get programmers in those!" end up with really
>>> really horribly shitty code that it's impossible for them to actually get
>>> beyond of. I've worked at a lot of these companies. It's horrible. Really
>>> horrible.
>>>
>>> Don't be duped by number of developers overall. Think about "available
>>> developers", "developer knowledge and expertise" and "ability to provide a
>>> good product". Who gives a shit if there are less developers if I can still
>>> find enough?
>>>
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